In Episode 19 of Fate, Forty, and Beyond, Gen welcomes Lisa Eva Zack — mother of five, women's advocate, and founder of a new nonprofit — for a conversation that moves from tarot cards to theology to tiny homes and back again. Lisa shares how a breaking point at work and the end of her second marriage became a catalyst for total reinvention, leading her toward a deeper trust in intuition and a mission to build real community for women who have nowhere to land.
Lisa opens up about leaving a job that was crushing her, navigating solo parenthood of five, and her dream of creating a sanctuary for mothers in transition.
Gen and Lisa also get into spiritual deconstruction after Catholic upbringings, self-love as the oxygen mask you put on first, and the grief that quietly arrives when life doesn't look the way you planned.
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If you love warm, real midlife conversations with humor and heart, you'll feel right at home here.
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