Kyle and Kerry discuss a common dilemma faced by fire service personnel: How to grow as effective leaders in an environment that may not support or value leadership development. They highlight the importance of introspection, empathy, and a growth mindset, while also pointing out the pervasive issue of confirmation bias. The episode is filled with practical tips on how to focus on what you can control, and how to make a positive impact in your immediate surroundings despite broader organizational challenges.