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If you can’t look back and cringe… are you even growing? In this light-hearted (but real) conversation, Pam and Erin open their “outtakes” folder—dating while high on accident, parenting meltdowns in Costco, telling an Italian mother-in-law her pasta feedback should be “nice,” and more—to show how naming our messes dissolves shame. We unpack why shame is so sticky (comparison, perfection, validation), what it does to our bodies, and how to build shame resilience with truth-telling, compassion, and owning your narrative. Come for the belly laughs, stay for the relief of not having to be perfect.

“There’s no shame worth keeping. When you own your story, there’s nothing left for anyone to use against you.”

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