In this conversation, Jill Yahn and Jessica Iron explore the complexities of trauma, particularly in educational settings. They discuss the importance of understanding trauma not just as an event but as a personal internalization that affects individuals differently. The conversation emphasizes the role of educators in recognizing and responding to trauma, the significance of co-regulation, and the necessity of self-care and boundaries when supporting others. They also touch on the importance of resilience, emotional awareness, and navigating difficult conversations in relationships. Overall, the discussion provides valuable insights into how to better support those experiencing trauma and the importance of personal growth and responsibility in the healing process.