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What happens to your mind when your body is 79 metres underwater, running on a single breath? World champion freediver Helena Bourdillon joins Patrick to talk about the razor's edge between presence and fear — and how she's used the same discipline to inspire people on land. If you've ever wondered what it really takes to go to the edge and come back, this conversation is for you.

TW - Discussions of suicide, self-harm.