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Nuclear fusion is the holy grail of power production. It is what powers the Sun and all the stars we see in the night sky.

For the past 80 years, scientists have been saying it's been only 30 years away from being perfected. Except now, with the massive projected electricity demands of AI and the scaling back of fossil fuel use, it could be close to reality.

Our guest is Dr Warren McKenzie, Managing Director of HB11, a small Australian company looking to power the world into the future.