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In mini episode 43.1 of Rabbit Hole of Research, the team gathers in the Basement Studio to reflect on Episode 43: Swarms, featuring researcher Josh Fisher. From biblical locusts to Hitchcock’s The Birds, the crew revisits some of the most captivating—and creepy—moments from the full episode.

Listener Alex’s questions spark new discussion on pop culture swarms, biblical ants, and the ethics of swarm-sized DragonCon crowds. Georgia returns with fresh takes on giant cinematic ticks and shawarma preferences, while Nick questions whether he actually witnessed a real-life dragonfly swarm—or hallucinated it entirely.

The conversation drifts into media the crew has been digesting, video game Hollow Knight: Silksong, balancing horror movies with Gilmore Girls decompression. Other pop culture cameos include The Frogs, Batman, Home Alone 2, and HighTown, plus book recommendations like The End of the World As We Know It, set in Stephen King’s The Stand universe.

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Joe explores how many calories it would take to transform into monsters across sci-fi and horror—think 222 Big Macs and tubs of Cherry Garcia.

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