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Kia ora! Here's my first interview for The Good Energy Podcast. It's with my brother Justin about reimagining the food system. His vision is to catalyse networks of small-scale farms that could feed whole communities cheap healthy food while nurturing the soil and reducing climate change impact.

Justin introduces us to the amazing work of Vagabond Vege and their regenerative human-scale market garden in the Wairarapa.



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