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I’m very excited to have on David Fishman as my guest for today’s episode.

David is Head of Lantau Group in Shanghai, where he works as a consultant for stakeholders in the power sector, and advises on energy development, energy infrastructure, and electricity consumption. But I know him as the author of the Substack Crossing the River by Feeling the Stones, a travel and geography publication where he shares his experiences exploring the less-covered corners of China’s economic transformation. This is by far one of my favourite Substacks, and hopefully through this conversation you’ll come to understand why, and become a subscriber yourself.

We talk travel during Covid, conversations with taxi drivers, and the transformation of ghost cities. I also ask him a very silly question about renewable energy. Be prepared to be a China geography expert by the end!

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