Hey there, how are you doing and being as we end 2025?
I’m not sure about you, but it has been a lot.
A lot of learning, unlearning, awareness-raising, and pattern-spotting.
It is fitting, then, that my final guest of 2025 on ‘In The Business of Healthy Masculinity’ is the awesome and powerful Systems & Soul with Hannah Litt who is one of the best pattern-spotters and activists that I know, inside and outside of business spaces.
Before you find out more about Hannah, a reminder as to where you can find this conversation:
* Apple
* Spotify
* YouTube
Let me share a bit more about Hannah:
Hannah Litt is an abolitionist strategist, a cultural architect, and the founder of Hannah Litt Ltd, where she leads organisations and communities through deep culture transformation grounded in justice, anti racism, and decolonial practice.
Her work is rooted in lived experience, corporate expertise, and a healing informed methodology that recognises how systems of harm shape the nervous system, identity, and leadership capacity of marginalised people.
Hannah built her career inside the very systems she now transforms. With extensive experience in anti racism, EDI, recruitment, HR, and organisational development, she has seen how workplace structures replicate historical inequities and how people internalise those patterns in their bodies and behaviours. That insight is not theoretical for her, it is embodied. It fuels her ability to decode power, expose root causes, and help organisations move from surface level diversity interventions to meaningful, systemic change.
Her lived experience of navigating racism, Islamophobia, misogyny, and neurodivergence forms a critical dimension of her practice. It enables her to read the emotional and cultural landscape of a room quickly, understand the patterns beneath conflict, and support teams to recognise how safety, belonging, and regulation influence every decision they make.
She helps individuals understand why they respond as they do, where those responses come from, and how to build a leadership identity that aligns with purpose rather than survival.
Through The Bridge to Reimagining, her signature framework, Hannah merges anti racist practice, decolonial thinking, nervous system literacy, and strategic business transformation to guide organisations toward conscious redesign.
She helps leaders connect the dots between personal purpose, cultural patterns, operational structures, and collective liberation. Clients consistently describe her as the bridge between truth and strategy, the person who can see the whole system and hold the whole room.
Her approach is rooted in care, empathy, and psychological safety, not as soft skills but as core governance principles for any organisation that expects its people to thrive. She supports teams to regulate before they strategise, to understand before they intervene, and to lead with a level of clarity that allows justice to become operational, not aspirational.
As a speaker, facilitator, and community builder, Hannah brings a compelling blend of story, rigour, analysis, and humanity. She guides audiences to see the invisible architecture of systems, to understand how their own nervous systems respond within those structures, and to step into purpose driven leadership that is courageous, grounded, and culturally competent.
Hannah believes we are not here to reform the parts of work that harm us, we are here to reimagine the whole architecture.
Her work is the bridge between the world we have and the world we deserve.
Hannah’s bio and impact combined with the podcast above is probably enough for you to get SO much value, but I will share a few extra provocations and would LOVE for you to hit reply and share any reflections, challenges or other insights with us.
Re-imagining what successful looks and feels like
This statement from Hannah hit me in the chest during our conversation and was a stark reminder for me personally.
I have spoken often that it took me sitting in an apartment on Bournemouth Beach a decade or so ago looking at the sea to realize I was what I affectionately called’ Spiritually Bankrupt.’
I had everything the outside world had conditioned me with: degree, house, good salary, lovely girlfriend, but I felt hollow on the inside. Empty. Spiritually bankrupt.
Have you ever had this feeling or experience? Have you allowed yourself to sit in discomfort?
What are you thinking, feeling, and what are your thoughts?
Who and what are we before our conditioning?
What is your earliest memory of growing up and/or being a child? Mine is around the age of two when I was accidentally bounded out of a swing by my child-minder lol Explains a lot!
But seriously, I don’t remember making my own decisions or having my own choices until I was meaningfully into my mid to late teens. By then, all sense of spirituality or intuition had been lost to an education system that rewarded solely grades, and zero else. That continues into the workplace.
So as per Hannah’s provocation, who and what were we before the systems that we were brought up on and conditioned with? Who can and what will we become as we realise that these systems are harmful by design, even if we seem to be doing ‘well’?
What are thinking and feeling on watching this video? Do share with us in the comments.
Giving ourselves space (and permission)
“We do have all the answers, though. We do. What we don’t do is give ourselves the space. To really listen to those answers, to trust our intuition, to listen to our gut, to not be distracted.” - Hannah Litt
If you are man reading Hannah’s statement above, how does it land? In your heart, your gut, as well as your head?
Honestly, until 10 years ago I lived ‘above the neck’ as my friend calls it. Why wouldn’t it, it’s been what I was trained in! Get the grades, get a job, make money, buy a house, and after 40+ years, maybe then you can relax and enjoy yourself. Seems madness really doesnt it!?
How often, if ever, do you give yourself space and time to just stop, to breathe, to reflect, and even feel? Let us know in the comments below.
Justice = Love
“It was based on making sure where I see harm, no one has to go through what I did, no one has to go through what I’ve witnessed. I don’t want that genuinely, and that’s why I say it kind of comes from a place of love, justice is love for me” - Hannah Litt
Justice is love for me.
This statement hit me in the heart as Hannah shared it. Interestingly over the past week, Hannah and I have had a lot of back-and-for on voice messages as we have processed the ridiculous management and mistreatment of the hunger strikers in the UK, as well as better understanding one another’s fuels for the different types of activism that we both carry out.
How does the statement and feeling of ‘justice is love for me’ land with you, in your heart, gut, and your head. All of those data centres of your body? We would love to hear in the comments below.
We really hope that you have been inspired by this conversation, I certainly was being in dialogue with Hannah Litt (she/her) .
If you did get some value, please do kindly share this susbstack with your networks so that we can amplify Hannah’s voice and work and bring more people into these explorations.
In your corner
Finally, a short note to advise that I am hereif you are looking for a 1-1 Thinking Partner that can be in your corner by voice note, virtually, and in-person, I have found 5 x 60 minutes calls + unlimited voice note communication to work the best.
If you are ready to embrace the journey towards healthier masculinity and the goodness that brings, at home and at work, drop me a line at garry.turner@radicality.co.uk.
We shall take a break over the festive period and return with episode #11 on Mon 5th Jan 2026 with chemical industry leader, peer, board member, and lovely human being, Rafik Zahy.
Here is a little something to whet your appetite, and wishing you well, and some rest.
With much love and best regards
Garry Turner
+44 7928 979358
