Description

We explore last episode’s discussion with Caroline Jessel in more depth, asking how can we stop kids falling in the river so that we don’t have to keep pulling them out.

Show notes and credits

• Our world in data: https://ourworldindata.org/ 
• Six step model of ecotherapy https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31973063/ 

Music: Pursuit by Abbeynoise Music from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!):

https://uppbeat.io/t/abbynoise/pursuit License code: BDBKCAXBNB6CLSSX

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