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Guest: Simon C. Osamoh, a former British detective and security director at Mall of America.

Host: David Riedman, creator of the K-12 School Shooting Database.

Book: How to Survive a Mass Shooting: Practical Tools to Prevent Gun Violence and Protect Yourself When It Happens

David Riedman is the creator of the K-12 School Shooting Database, Chief Data Officer at a global risk management firm, and a tenure-track professor. Listen to my weekly podcast—Back to School Shootings—or my recent interviews on Freakonomics Radio, New England Journal of Medicine, and my article on CNN about AI and school security.

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