We all need a little help! And Mark Pagan is a great conduit to joyfully and lovely finding a community of people who are not shy to ask for help. I have known Mark and his beautiful work for years. Was so honored to sit down and chat all things from consumption, to good gift giving, to the wildfire of this country, to doing less and loving more. Check it out and enjoy!
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