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Rob’s comments below are in italics.Derek’s comments below are in normal font.

So we thought we would pass comment on current events today. What’s going on that people should pay attention to?

Well, probably at the top of the list would be alleged incursions by Russia into the airspace of various NATO countries. We briefly discussed this a couple of weeks ago when the drones appeared in Poland.

All of the people that I regard as sensible commentators are now firmly saying what I strongly suspected at the outset, that this is a straightforward false flag operation. It had nothing to do with the Russians at all. They were Russian pattern drones. None of them were armed.

They were all drones that are used as decoys to confuse the air defence systems. The house that was damaged was damaged by a missile fired from a Polish warplane which shot a missile at the drone, which landed on the house instead. Since then, we’ve had screaming headlines, I certainly saw on the newsstands, front page headlines in the Daily Mail about alleged Russian planes violating Estonian airspace.

Russians have firmly said that they definitely did not deviate from internationally agreed flight paths and encroach on anybody’s airspace. Then just yesterday we had three drones appearing over Danish airports, causing a lot of disruption. Actually, nobody knows where these came from, although the Western media are firmly saying this is a Russian provocation.

What strikes me about these stories is that they’re monumentally implausible. Russia would have no conceivable benefit by aggravating any NATO countries. They’re focusing entirely on the objectives that they stated at the outset of the Ukrainian conflict. They’ve not budged from that. If you actually listen to what they’re saying, it’s an entirely understandable concern. You may or may not agree with them, but most of the comments about it are complete fabrication and speculation rather than spin put on the interpretation. Unfortunately, people are so ready to be stirred up on nationalistic or ethnic divisions. To me, the fundamental thing is that we’re all human beings. A lot of the conflicts are not even between ethnically or genetically diverse populations. Even the most genetically diverse populations on earth are still human beings. The fundamental thing is the brotherhood of the entire human family.

Yes, they get us punching sideways to prevent us from punching upwards.

People fall for it so readily. It’s really perilous in an increasingly nuclear-armed context.

There must be some people who are absolutely itching to fire a nuclear weapon. They talk about tactical nukes as though this were something very minor. A tactical nuke is about the size of the ones that destroyed Hiroshima and Nagasaki. So it’s not trivial. I don’t suppose you’ve ever seen the movie called “The War Game,” which was made in the 1960s? It was intended to be broadcast on television, although they decided to pull it. But it did have a very limited showing in the cinema, I saw it when I was at Cambridge. The scenario they had for how the war started is precisely that: firing a tactical nuclear missile, which then triggered a much larger exchange. What was depicted in the movie was a very limited strategic exchange that was enough to bring the fabric of society to a standstill.

A cascade of events. It’s not just movies, I was thinking of Daniel Ellsberg, who wrote The Doomsday Machine; he makes a very good case for the cascade of events that would happen if that were to be triggered.

Yeah, there are plenty of accounts, but obviously, there are people who are making increasingly reckless choices in the face of this. Israel apparently has 90 warheads, and it seems to be the one that is most likely to act recklessly.

Douglas MacGregor has just been speculating that they’re gearing up for another attack on Iran. I would have thought Iran had demonstrated conclusively that this would unleash a decisive response.

But that doesn’t stop people from seriously considering it. Then many in America believe that China must be contained in some way. They should have thought that before they built the fastest-growing economy in the world.

Just shows what you can do, doesn’t it?

One of the things that occurs is that there seems to be absolutely zero strategic thinking in any of the Western nations, including the United States. They seem to be rushing around trying to apply fixes to something or other without any long-term vision of how this might work out, how it is likely to work out, how it could possibly work out and what they would like it to work out to. That is really the picture across the entire board. I seriously wonder what private communication has occurred between Putin and Trump.

I don’t know how high Putin’s expectations were of getting anywhere with normalising the relations, but that seems to have ground into the sand. It looked very promising to me that, whatever one thinks of Russia, most of us have a very unrealistic picture of it. We imagine it’s very much like the Soviet era. We don’t realise the progress that has been made economically and socially within Russia over the last 25 years. For one thing, but regardless of what differences of strategy and philosophy or anything else, we’re all living on the same planet. We need to find a way to get along with each other. The first one is to actually listen. The dogged refusal to listen or even to accurately report what they do say is extraordinary.

It’s like any relationship, though, isn’t it?

Yeah. So the public position is that Trump is more or less washing his hands of Ukraine. He’s saying if the European countries want to buy American weapons and give them to Ukraine, they’re welcome to do that. None of the European countries have got any money to buy the weapons with, we can’t even afford them.

Not a problem, for weapons we just magic up more money!

Yeah. Which just impoverishes everybody by devaluing the currency. So the only hope is that the American economy and the economies of the British, French, and German countries tank so conclusively that we can’t pursue this. The trouble is that the personnel and weapons are already in place. The question is whether economic collapse will overtake the military situation.

There’s no doubt the big picture is that the dollar-based global economy is coming to an end. I probably sound like a broken record because I say this every broadcast, but it’s becoming increasingly obvious.

So if you’ve missed any of the last 17 broadcasts, we will repeat the message until it’s clear!

Yeah. The developments with the Chinese setting up gold exchanges in various places, including Saudi Arabia, are essentially facilitating what is, in all but name, a gold-based international trade. It’s just returned to exactly what it had been from the time of the Venetian bankers up until really up until Nixon took the dollar off the gold standard because effectively when the dollar was backed by gold and when there was a kept commitment to retain its conversion value at $35 to the ounce, then effectively World Trade was in gold, even if it was denominated in dollars.

Of course, that was the origin of the wealth of the city of London; they held gold, which backed the sterling pound, which enabled transactions to be made in that. So we’ll definitely be returning to that. You can draw your own conclusions about what form you want to store your own wealth in. We won’t elaborate on that, but our reasoning is fairly straightforward. Then not only are they, there are certainly elements in the United States establishment that would want some conflict with China.

I would have thought the Chinese had just decisively demonstrated that they’re ready for anything. Now they’re making very ostensible warlike noises about Venezuela.

Yeah, I’m like guys, come on. We’ve had this psy-op a few years ago. Do we have to go through it again?

Yeah. Well, the excuse that they are pivotal to the supply of drugs to America doesn’t even bear thinking about. The majority of the drugs, as everybody knows, come from Colombia, Ecuador, and Mexico, all of which are firmly in the pockets of the United States.

It’s never about what they say it’s about. That’s obvious.

No, the most obvious thing to notice is that Venezuela has the largest oil supply reserves in the world, or among the largest. The question is whether the internal contradictions, whether financial or social tensions, which are endemic to the entire Western world, will overtake it before someone does something truly reckless. This is a pretty gloomy topic. Any other thoughts on this?

It feels to me like we’re watching the controlled demolition of all these economies in real time. It’s a question of what’s going to happen first.

One thing that is also significant is that there’s another current, which is the numerous ways in which our governments have been lying to us for years and years.

In pretty much every way!

Different people will have different wake-up moments. The moment that you’ve woken up about one really big thing that gets under your skin, you start looking at the others.

That was 9/11 for me, realising that there was probably not the way it was presented.

Can you remember which conversation it was that woke you up to that?

Yeah, I was a student in Sheffield, and there was a documentary that went around. It was a series of documentaries that explored the fact that it appeared to be a controlled demolition, whether it was or wasn’t exactly, but it examined some of the aspects that didn’t quite add up about it. But that was 2006-ish.

Yeah, well. This is getting a lot of coverage now.

There are a lot of people realising, since the Charlie Kirk assassination, that Israel probably is controlling more of American foreign policy, or seems to be influencing more foreign policy decisions than they’d been led to believe..

Well, exactly.

Tucker Carlson has produced a series of seven in-depth programs on 9/11. He was one of the speakers at the three-day event, which was held last week over the 10th, 11th and 12th of September. They had very knowledgeable speakers discussing various aspects of it. Building seven, the two towers, the Pentagon. There’s been huge coverage about this. Whatever you think, what is really weird is that for something as important as that, it was totally taboo to even discuss it.

That’s the point, isn’t it? If something is taboo, it’s worth looking at.

I wanted to ask you, the UK government has announced that digital ID is going to be mandated at some point soon. That was announced in the last couple of days.

There was certainly a petition saying we don’t want it, which I signed. I don’t know whether you saw it?

I’ve seen it. Yeah, I should sign it. But yeah it looks like they’re gonna try and ram it through.

Yeah.

So we’ll see how that goes. It feels like there should be enough people who say no to it to make it not enforceable. We’ll see. But tying that back to the finance lens, it’s like if we are arguing that this dollar-based currency is gonna not going to be a thing anymore, then what are they trying to build instead? This move to central bank digital currencies is very much on their agenda. Obviously, the digital ID is the prerequisite for that. So yeah, it’s just something to be aware of.

Yeah. It depends on whether the wider, more fundamental vulnerabilities are addressed before all this is in place. Yeah, there’s no doubt that there are very strong forces moving in diametrically opposite directions. Either one of them could prevent the other from happening.

I would say the heartening thing is the rapidly accelerating and self-reinforcing state of the awakening process.

Yeah. Thanks to COVID, there are more people switched onto the digital ID threat than would have been the case if they’d done it the way around and done digital ID first.

Incidentally, Tucker Carlson stirred up a huge storm with the eulogy he gave at Charlie Kirk’s memorial service. I don’t know whether you heard about that? He pointed out the fact that Jesus said things that people in power didn’t like, and therefore they decided to kill him. Now, some people think that it’s a bit of a stretch to draw the parallel with Charlie Kirk, but the point he was making is that Charlie Kirk was saying things that powerful people didn’t like, and then he got killed. Whether you think that the analogy with Jesus was appropriate or not is another matter.

He’s got a point, you know, as far as I know, Jesus was a maverick and a thorn in the side of the establishment; that much appears to be clear.

I heard the other day that in conservative Christian circles in America, if anybody suggests praying for the children of Gaza, they’re told to shut up. The extraordinary thing is that people who seem to most determinedly identify as Christians don’t seem to actually adopt the core teachings of loving thy neighbour.

It’s just the levels of indoctrination that we live under. I think you have to identify where these worldviews are somehow incompatible. When you’ve done mental gymnastics to support a worldview for long enough, eventually it’s going to crack. That’s an ongoing process for all of us.

Yes, the point I was going to make is that the number of views these various dissenting critics are receiving on YouTube alone is phenomenal. There was a Tucker Carlson interview on another independent news channel. He talked a lot about 9/11, also about Israel, Gaza and Charlie Kirk. In just in a few days, it had 347,000 views. You know, many of these channels are gaining millions of followers. So I’d like to finish on a more positive note that the awakening is the only way to say it.

Well, we’ve said this in the past, that the Matrix was both a documentary and a movie, wasn’t it?

Yes. So let’s finish on that positive note.

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