Show Notes
Season 3 Episode 2 ‘Science of Magic’
Today my guest is Dean Radin. Dean is Chief Scientist at the Institute of Noetic Sciences (IONS), Associated Distinguished Professor at the California Institute of Integral Studies, and cofounder and vice chairman of the neuroengineering company, Cognigenics. He earned an MS (electrical engineering) and a PhD (psychology) from the University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign. In 2022 he was awarded an Honorary DSc (doctor of science) from the Swami Vivekananda University in Bangalore, India.
Before joining the IONS research staff in 2001, Radin worked at AT&T Bell Labs, Princeton University, University of Edinburgh, and SRI International. He has given over 780 talks and interviews worldwide, and he is inventor of 12 patents and author or coauthor of 340+ scientific and popular articles, book chapters, and books, four of which have been translated into 15 foreign languages. These are The Conscious Universe (1997), Entangled Minds (2006), Supernormal (2013), Real Magic (2018), and most recently The Science of Magic, published in October 2025.
In today’s show we discuss the current status of the evidence in parapsychology. Dean describes some of his experiences working at the STARGATE Remote viewing program for US Intelligence. We talk about the challenges of designing experiments in parapsychology. And we discuss the relationship between psi phenomena and magic.
Resources
His books:
Radin, D. (2025). The Science of Magic: How the Mind Weaves the Fabric of Reality. Harmony Books.
Radin, D. (2018). Real Magic: Ancient Wisdom, Modern Science, and a Guide to the Secret Power of the Universe: Unlocking Your Natural Psychic Abilities to Create Everyday Miracles. Harmony/Rodale/Convergent.
Radin, D. (2013). Supernormal: Science, Yoga, and the Evidence for Extraordinary Psychic Abilities. Harmony/Rodale/Convergent.
Radin, D. (2006). Entangled Minds: Extrasensory Experiences in a Quantum Reality.Gallery Books.
Radin, D. (1997). The Conscious Universe: The Scientific Truth of Psychic Phenomena. HarperOne.
Dean’s entry in the Psi Encyclopedia.
Other Resources
Etzel Cardena’s 2018 paper outlining the evidence for psi phenomena:
Cardeña, E. (2018). The experimental evidence for parapsychological phenomena: A review. American Psychologist, 73(5), 663–677. https://doi.org/10.1037/amp0000236
Skeptical response article:
Reber, A. S., & Alcock, J. E. (2020). Searching for the impossible: parapsychology’s elusive quest, American Psychologist 75(3), 391–399.
Issue of Journal of Scientific Exploration that has articles responding to Reber & Alcock (2020).
Landscape of Consciousness online map (Maps the 300+ theories of consciousness).
Psi Encyclopedia article on Remote Viewing (Discusses Stargate).
Pat Price’s remote viewing of secret passwords discussed in the following book:
Targ, R. (2012). The reality of ESP: A physicist’s proof of psychic abilities. Quest books.
Chris French’s comments on replication are in this interview here. See also the episode resources for links to written material.
Transparent Psi project (failed large-scale replication of a precognition effect).
Title Music: ‘Stranger things’ by Music Unlimited on Pixabey.
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