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A wonderful conversation with Paul Morel, Vattenfall on branding, the systemic industrial change and collaborations, on the path to fossil-free living.

See the Vattenfall industrial emissions face mist video here:

Industrial Emissions Face Mist - Vattenfall

/Mika



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