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DREYER DRIVE PODCAST - EPISODE 033: THE PAPIN SISTERS

EPISODE DESCRIPTION: This week on Dreyer Drive, Ryan and Jacqueline reunite after a month apart to catch up on summer vacations, colonoscopies, and the weirdest things they did as kids to seem "different and interesting." Then we dive into our first spooky season episode about the Papin sisters—two French housemaids who committed one of the most brutal murders in 1930s France. Plus: Ryan discovers his microphone mute button has never worked, and we celebrate his dragonfruit harvest with the enthusiasm it truly deserves.

CONTENT WARNING: This episode contains detailed discussion of violence, murder, and disturbing historical events. Listener discretion is advised.

TIMESTAMPS

[00:00:00] - Cold Open & Podcast Introduction

Intro music and podcast premise

What to expect from today's episode

[00:01:06] - Catching Up: Ryan's Microphone Discovery

"You are both high and close"

The Ajax slogan that never was

Ryan discovers his mute button doesn't work

The implication for every meeting he's ever had

[00:01:56] - Home Renovation Horror Stories

The one-armed contractor story

French doors and slippery tile installation

Jacqueline breaks her wrist pretending to be a dinosaur

The acid trip encounter with the contractor

[00:08:18] - The Friend Who Lost Her Finger

Snowblower accident and the manicure set prize

Finding humor after trauma

"I love my little nub"

Creative stories about missing appendages

[00:14:25] - What's New: Colonoscopy Chronicles

Ryan's squeaky clean colon update

Being awake during the procedure

Watching your own colonoscopy on screen

[00:15:38] - Summer Vacation Survival

First real summer holidays with kids

The relief of routine returning

Constant "Daddy, play with me" requests

[00:17:23] - The Child Trading Experiment

When mom and dad traded kids with another family

The tomato force-feeding incident

Dan and Ryan's escape plan

"The 90s were a different time"

[00:24:01] - Are You Wearing Deodorant?

Family headstone plans

Daily deodorant checks

Porter family coat of arms in Latin

[00:28:42] - Question of the Week: Standing Out

What weird things did you do to seem interesting as a kid?

Ryan's Christmas stocking socks (unwashed for months)

The tracksuit incident and wearing two outfits in one day

Jacqueline's vintage advertisement phase

[00:37:28] - The "Eat a Beaver, Save a Tree" Story

Laminated advertisements as backpack keychains

Tenth grade naivety meets Spencer's Gifts

"I don't even see color... I don't even see arms"

[00:39:15] - Dallin's Orange Modrobes

Making cargo pants your entire personality

Cutting knees out of all other pants

Wearing the Modrobes underneath everything

[00:42:01] - Main Topic Introduction: The Papin Sisters

Spooky season officially begins

Setting up the story of Christine and Léa Papin

France, 1933, and a dark and rainy night

[00:44:07] - Early Life of the Papin Sisters

Clemence and Gustave's troubled marriage

Three daughters raised separately

The Catholic orphanage years

Amelia escapes to a convent

[00:48:50] - Working for the Lancelin Family

Christine (age 20) and Léa (age 15) hired as housemaids

Seemingly ideal working conditions

The white glove checks

Suspicions about the sisters' relationship

[00:53:40] - The Night of February 2, 1933

"It was, in fact, a dark and rainy night"

The broken iron shorts the electrical system

Madame Lancelin and Geneviève return unexpectedly

Christine "smashed-ed it" into her employer's head

[00:56:21] - The Horrific Details ⚠️

Content warning for graphic violence

The pewter jug attack

What happened next (details intentionally limited)

Discovery by Renée Lancelin

[00:59:40] - The Eyeball on the Stairs

Police mount the stairs to the attic

Renée picks up what he thinks is a jewel

Finding the sisters in bed together, naked

Immediate confession

[01:01:15] - The Trial and Public Reaction

French intellectuals and class warfare think pieces

"Op-ed nation" of the 1930s

Self-defense claims

Léa goes "deaf and mute"

[01:04:03] - The Sentencing

Christine sentenced to death by guillotine

Léa gets 10 years hard labor

Fun fact: Last guillotine execution was in the 1980s

[01:05:12] - Christine's Final Days

Separation from Léa drives her insane

Attempts to remove her own eyeballs

Starves herself to death in 1937

The theory of shared personality

[01:06:16] - What Happened to Léa

Released after 8 years on good behavior

Moves back in with mom Clemence

Gets hotel job under fake name

Lives until the YEAR 2000

[01:08:30] - The Documentary Discovery

Claude Ventura's 2000 documentary

Finding Léa still alive

The stroke that made her actually mute

Ryan visited Paris and might have stayed at her hotel

[01:10:49] - Spooky Story Debrief

"Pepin" pronunciation struggles

Ryan rates the spookiness

"People hurt people"

Preview of next episode's Porter family ghost stories

[01:12:15] - Unhinged Text: Dragon Fruit Support

Ryan's dragon fruit farming adventure

Hand pollination by moonlight with Q-tips

The Porter siblings' transformation from enemies to cheerleaders

"Everyone shut up my show is on"

[01:19:48] - The Porter Family Love Language

Not physically affectionate, don't say "I love you"

Jonathan's accidental "love you" and immediate regret

From hating each other to supporting dragon fruits

"I love your dragon fruits" - the closest they can get

[01:21:32] - Wrap-Up & Next Episode Preview

Two weeks until the next spooky episode

Get your Porter family ghost stories ready

Flashlights and candlelight discussion

Final thoughts on spooky season

EPISODE RESOURCES

Mentioned in This Episode:

The Papin Sisters case (Le Mans, France, 1933)

Video 99 / Coffee Time (Ajax plaza location)

Bunko (the dice game for "sad housewives")

Mawdrops (90s cargo pants)

National Sports (Boxing Day shopping)

Spencer's Gifts (source of inappropriate keychains)

Visual Content:

Crime scene photos (mentioned but NOT recommended)

Ryan's dragon fruit harvest photos on Instagram

Jacqueline's uncomfortable Disneyland photo

Referenced Media:

"I Think You Should Leave" (Netflix)

"Snaps" TV show

Claude Ventura documentary (2000)

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CREDITS

Hosts: Ryan Porter & Jacqueline PorterProduction: Dreyer Drive PodcastTheme Music: [TBD]Episode Length: 1:23:46

This podcast is named after the street where Ryan and Jacqueline grew up with their siblings in Ajax, Ontario, Canada. It's about nostalgia, family dynamics, and the weird things that shaped us—with occasional detours into true crime.

CONTENT NOTE: While we approach dark topics with our signature "what-should-Ido-with-my-hands" humor, we recognize the real tragedy of the events discussed. The Papin sisters case involves real victims and genuine trauma. Our discussion is meant to explore historical events, not to make light of violence.



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