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In this very special episode, I'm joined by my fellow classmates from Meteorite 2021, an astrological embodiment container facilitated by Sabrina Monarch. We discussed the idea of astrology as a future language. We also discussed the idea of the spirit of language, our own personal experiences learning astrology, what it means to be human beings who interact with the vast possibilities of the astrological language, and the future of astrology within our communities.

A special thank you to Verena Borell, Sabrina Monarch, Mirella Trimboli, Kelly Chalmers, Jenny Chu, A.S. Katoch (Rudy), Maddie Gaieski, Fabiola Calvo, and Nicole Elyse for contributing their incredible insights. Connect with them  and check out their incredible offerings!

Learn more about Meteorite 2022 Class here. Application is open until February 28, 2022.

This podcast is hosted, produced, and edited by Jonathan Koe. Theme music is also composed by me! Connect with me through my newsletter, my Instagram @nate_qi, my music, and click here to book an astrology reading with me. For podcast-related inquiries, email me at healingthespiritpodcast@gmail.com.

Here are timestamps for our discussion:

• [06:44] Jonathan on the concept of Future Language.
• [12:04] Verena on simultaneously learning astrology and English
• [17:00] Sabrina on language to describe something never named before, and the somatic experience of receiving that language; the contrast between daily language and astrology
• [20:20] Mirella on the experience of learning astrology alongside Italian; approaching languages through analytical means vs. intuitively allowing language to wash over you; the feeling component in language
• [27:34] Kelly on how archetypes infuse our consciousness; how astrology introduces us to dimensions not available in our education and work systems
• [30:50] Verena on the movement of the astrological nodal axis from Gemini - Sagittarius into Taurus - Scorpio.
• [33:48] Jenny on language and meaning-making; the slippery, ever-shifting nature of astrology challenging our notion of fixed-ness in our meaning-making.
• [36:44] Jonathan on channeling - how artists and corporate VPs are essentially channeling when they create something out of nothing; how to be a clear channel
• [38:42] Kelly on working with the chart to guide ourselves to find the appropriate setup for our specific channels
• [39:48] Sabrina on the relationship between Vesta and Hermes: the importance of discerning the fire we want to tend to in being a clear channel
• [42:04] Mirella on the connection between Mercury and Uranus
• [43:36] Verena on the Akashic records: the potential overwhelm and the need for discernment when working in the vast realm of information
• [47:14] Maddie on astrology as the lens with potential to evolve us and those around us
• [48:04] Jenny on the how language can get stuck, how astrology can be flattened; the need to be careful about creating a dogmatic framework using language that can be used to categorize people
• [49:40] Jonathan on moving away from completely merging the human and their birth chart in astrological readings
• [51:12] Fabiola on how astrology holds the spirit of connection and as the language of movement, connecting to dreams and more fluid ways of being in the world; astrology as the language that offers an alternative to pain associated with our daily language
• [53:22] Nicole on using language to disguise one’s self and to blend in; astrology as a language we can use for ourselves and our use only, to get to know ourselves.
• [56:04] Rudy on developing astrological fluency alongside the language of depth psychology; the Logos of astrological language.
• [1:03:56] Verena on the fear of speaking, the witch wound in relation to Capricorn, Gemini, and Scorpio; the power of astrology in helping liberate us from the fear of speaking out
• [1:08:24] Jonathan muses that perhaps astrology is more than a language, and how astrology itself has evolved over time. How do we revolutionize astrology? Is astrology more than a language?
• [1:09:40] Sabrina on bridging astrology with other disciplines.
• [1:11:26] Jenny on bridging decolonization work with studying the divine.
• [1:13:52] Kelly on the role of our throat’s vibration in creating our reality and how our colonized languages create a veil that prevents us from seeing this.
• [1:17:06] Verena on our collective move to a new timeline; the need for us to expand the astrological language as astrologers.
• [1:23:04] Sabrina on considering each archetype as sentient beings and cultivating non-extractive relationships with astrology
• [1:25:50] Kelly on working at an energetic level to bring us to deeper relationships with archetypes
• [1:27:36] Rudy on the etymology of oration; astrology as prayer, which goes beyond language.

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