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Faith doesn't mean you won't suffer. And hope deferred really does make the heart sick.

In this episode, Bishop Jonathan Suber and Janae Carlee get honest about the difference between faith and hope, why disappointment is not a spirit you can cast out, and what it actually costs to follow Jesus. Bishop Suber also shares what it was like to be told he had four months to live and what surrender really felt like in that moment.

This one is heavy and necessary.

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