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Hello!

This week I brought on my good friend and brilliant writer T Wise to talk about the themes in my last newsletter, #27: The pain/pleasure paradox. I met T when I was his editor at Man Repeller, and every time we published one of his essays people would comment “MORE OF THIS PLEASE!!!!” And I agree. Today we discuss everything from death to Judaism, gender, The Vow, and (dare I say it) cancel culture. Our conversation wraps around 1 hour 15 minutes, at which point I do an audio reading of the newsletter. So skip that if you already read it! In the future I may break out the audio readings, so thanks for dealing in the meantime.

Some links to things we mention:

“The Case for Not Being Born,” by Joshua Rothman•“Is Prison Necessary? Ruth Wilson Gilmore Might Change Your Mind” by Rachel Kushner•“Ordinary Things That Bring Me Extraordinary Joy” by T Wise“I Am Finally Living My Life as a Man, Albeit a Man Named ‘Praise Josephine’” by T Wise•“Outgrowing the Personal Essay: Can I Create a Voice Bigger Than My Trans Identity?” by T Wise•How to Do Nothing by Jenny Odell

Thank you for listening!Haley

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