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Welcome to Episode 9 of Out of the Fhir! This week, we're joined by a special guest, Eyal Dviri, Head of the Data Innovation team at Clalit Health Services the second-largest integrated payer-provider organization in the world.

In this fascinating conversation, we travel to Israel to explore its unique and rapidly evolving healthcare ecosystem. With a new law mandating nationwide, FHIR-based data portability, Israel is at the forefront of a healthcare data revolution. Eyal provides an unparalleled, on-the-ground perspective on this monumental undertaking, discussing the real-world challenges and strategic decisions involved in modernizing an entire nation's health data infrastructure.

Tune in to learn about:

* The Clalit Scale: The immense scope of managing data for 14 hospitals and a massive community network within Israel's public health system.

* A National FHIR Mandate: How a new law is compelling the entire country to rebuild its data foundation on FHIR, moving from legacy systems to real-time, structured data exchange.

* The AI Race vs. Data Foundations: Eyal breaks down the critical tension between the rush to deploy AI solutions and the essential, foundational work of ensuring data quality and interoperability through standards like FHIR.

* A Unique Patient Consent Model: A deep dive into Israel's planned Patient Consent Manager (PCM) and why putting the patient in control of their data is a non-negotiable cornerstone of their new ecosystem.

* Global Lessons in Interoperability: How Israel's journey offers powerful insights for healthcare systems worldwide, including the US and its TEFCA initiative, on what it truly takes to build a connected health network.

This is a must-listen episode for anyone interested in health data interoperability at scale, the practical realities of implementing FHIR, and the crucial relationship between structured data and the future of trustworthy healthcare AI.



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