This is literally where it all started, in terms of the Byron’s Loom Podcast. It is the story of how trust in the Braver Angels Way turned a potentially polarized conversation into a productive working relationship. Byron and Sue Lani Madsen originally met through the organization Braver Angels. Both had experience with the practice of using Braver Angels tools to engage in conversations across differences. One day, Sue Lani wrote a substack article that upset Byron. But, instead of leaving an angry, self-righteous comment, he picked up the phone and called Sue Lani to tell her how he’d been impacted. To her credit, she was able to stay present and listen to him. Once they both had a chance to air their feelings, the conversation became something else. It became a dialogue about the dialogue they’d just had. And Byron’s Loom was born out of that phone call. The Byron’s Loom podcast is a series of conversations between people with different politics, guided by an intention to disagree accurately and find common ground wherever possible. We draw inspiration from this quote from Monica Guzman:
“Those who are under-represented in your experience will be over-represented in your imagination.”
This episode is the recording of that first phone call between Byron and Sue Lani. Please enjoy.
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