On this week's episode of Two Virgins, Sam and Teresa interview Jeffrey Gibson over a cup of Clementine IZZE. Jeffrey Gibson is an American painter and sculptor of Choctaw-Cherokee heritage. He is known for his works which often combine elements of traditional Native American art with contemporary aesthetic and material references. Gibson is also recipient of a 2019 MacArthur Foundation Genius grant. Gibson talks to Teresa and Sam about his meditations on art and life, the nature of scale in his work, as well as creating installations en masse.