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Host: Jude DiMeglio TrangGuest: Catherine Dahl Luckow

Description:In this heartfelt episode, Jude sits down with Catherine Dahl Luckow—author, wife, mother, and grandmother—to explore the reality of suffering and grief. Cathy shares her personal story of losing her mother at a young age, how it shaped her empathy, and the ways God’s grace has carried her and others through unimaginable loss. Together, they discuss how pain can deepen our ability to love and minister to others, and how community and faith sustain us in our darkest times.

We talk about:

· How Cathy’s personal loss prepared her to walk alongside others in grief

· Why suffering can open the door to deeper empathy and connection

· The role of community in carrying one another through tragedy

· The grace God gives in the midst of real—not imagined—suffering

· Stories from Cathy’s book When Darkness Comes: His Mercy Is More

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Music Credit:Gabe Kubanda / Damn Plans (Instrumental) © 2021 Kubanda Music

Engineer:Ray Ingegneri, Third Street Productions, Tucson, AZ



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