In this seventeenth episode of Parts & Charts: The IFS and Astrology Podcast, Chelsea and KP dive into the soul of friendship — from the IFS parts that crave connection to the astrological placements that reveal how we bond, detach, and heal through friendship.
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They explore Mercury’s and Venus’s friendship archetypes, Saturn’s lessons in boundaries and endurance, and the ways we unconsciously attract both safety and adventure in our closest relationships.
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Time Stamps & Topics
00:00 – Opening reflections on friendship through the lens of IFS and astrology00:45 – Mercury and Venus as friendship archetypes: communication vs. mirroring03:17 – “The people who have endured with you over time are your gold friends.” – KP05:00 – Chelsea confesses: “I need to come clean and say that I was in a sorority.”07:05 – Lifelong friendship patterns: “I’ve always had to have a best friend.” – Chelsea08:57 – Reading Chelsea’s chart: Venus in Gemini in the 11th house, Jupiter in Aquarius in the 7th10:59 – Best friend signatures in astrology: Sagittarius and Pisces energy13:12 – “I know that if I show up that way, I’ll attract more of that.” – Chelsea17:05 – Boundaries and safety in connection: “I want to know where people stand.” – Chelsea18:03 – “We’re looking for the other in the chart — the friend in the chart — but it’s also us as the friend.” – KP20:05 – When friendships end: grief, loss, and identity29:00 – “I’ve been trying to figure out friendship for so long, and there’s just not a lot written about it.” – Chelsea30:34 – “Friendship makes your life rich. If you don’t have a certain type of friendship, your life feels cold.” – KP34:00 – “What’s your friend element? That’s the trailhead.” – KP35:01 – The story of how KP and Chelsea met through a tarot book club36:49 – “I am a ride-or-die type of person. I want friendships to last forever.” – KP37:50 – “You have such a balance of brilliant and goof.” – Chelsea43:00 – The pain of friend breakups: self-blame and rumination44:53 – “Don’t look at your chart anymore if it’s making you anxious.” – KP45:48 – Saturn’s role in authentic friendship: “Discarding something to go in the right direction.” – KP
Resources Mentioned
* Freedom from Your Inner Critic by Jay Early & Bonnie Weiss — referenced in the previous episode
* Internal Family Systems (IFS) — used to explore parts around friendship, attachment, and boundaries
* Astrological Houses 3, 7, and 11 — as friendship houses representing communication, bonding, and community
* Mercury & Venus Archetypes — two modes of friendship connection
* Saturn Transits — friendship lessons in endurance and authenticity
* Mars Transits — times of conflict or cutting away
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Credits:
Music “Vape Juice Dave’s Bistro” composed by Scott Cary (Wild Western Avenue) for the feature film RINGOLEVIO (2020) directed by KP Kaszubowski - performed by Scott Cary, Max Wikoff, Else Albeck Gasparka, and Sarah Luther
The cover image is a collage by Chelsea Owens.
