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In this four-part podcast series, Justice ReDesigned sits down with nationally acclaimed diversity trainer and justice reform advocate Pastor Edward L. Palmer Sr.—a powerful voice in the fight against racial and ethnic disparities in America’s juvenile justice and child welfare systems.We explore the backlash against Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI), the legal and personal consequences of erasing racial equity from public discourse, and the deeper political strategies at play. With honesty and clarity, Pastor Palmer helps us understand not just what's at stake—but what we must do to preserve justice in a pluralistic America.Our final episode begins with a critical conversation on how race and poverty are manipulated in American politics. Drawing on themes explored in works like Hillbilly Elegy, Pastor Palmer reflects on why some poor white communities resist racial equity—even when equity would benefit them too.We then close the series with a segment titled “Reclaiming the Language – Moving Forward.” Pastor Palmer offers a direct message to the current administration—and words of guidance for those who still believe in the fight for justice.This episode is both a warning and a call to action: if we continue turning civil rights on their head, what future are we really building—especially in a nation where the white majority is shrinking and pluralism is rising?

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