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In this episode of The Skeptical Shaman podcast, host Rachel White (of TOTEM Readings) chats Jen Pahwa (of Hummingbird Hearings) all about Jen's strange (and strangely expansive) recent spiritual journey-- one that's taken her and her family (including several young children) all over the country!

This episode is all about what happens when we start listening to spirit-- and just how difficult and challenging it can be in practice. After all: the map is not the territory, and Jen's meandering odyssey across the U.S. (multiple times, for the record) is proof positive that our Spirit Guides can be very demanding.

The upshot? While we don't always immediately understand the "why" behind our Spirit Guides' messages, we always end up precisely where we are meant to be-- if we actually listen! In this episode, Rachel and Jen discuss the lived reality of actually listening to spirit-- and how incredibly novel and twisting the road can be!

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