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In this episode, we had the pleasure of speaking with Whitney K. Pipkin, author of We Shall All Be Changed: How Facing Death with Loved Ones Transforms Us. In her book, Whitney shares her personal journey through the grief of losing her mother and how that experience reshaped her life and faith. During our conversation, we explored the discomfort that often surrounds grief, especially when others try to inject joy into our sorrow with well-meaning but misplaced words. Whitney beautifully articulated how she discovered a more nuanced form of joy—one that isn’t about forced happiness, but about finding comfort and Christ’s presence even in the midst of profound sorrow.

This was a such meaningful conversation, though not an easy one. We hope it strengthen how you think about death, grief, and joy; and that it encourages you to hold on to the only hope that endures: Christ’s victory over death. I want to encourage you to follow Whitney on Instagram, her Substack Tell It True, and learn more about her work at whitneykpipkin.com.



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