If you stay in the Church long enough, you will get hurt.
The real question isn’t if the wounds come, but what they form in you afterward. IN FACT, THERE IS A LOT OF LAUGHTER!
In this episode of the Altars & Ashes Podcast, we look back on some of the most painful, and now strangely formative, moments of our lives in ministry. And yes, there is laughter. Not because the wounds were light, but because time, grace, and perspective have revealed what God was doing beneath them.
Austin reflects on over 23 years in ministry, sharing hurts that didn’t just affect him, but reached into his home and family. Robbie offers perspective shaped by growing up as a pastor’s son, watching the Church from the front row long before he ever stood behind a pulpit. B.D. brings insight from moments he witnessed up close, seeing how systems, personalities, and fear can quietly deform what was meant to protect Christ’s bride.
This is not a “church hurt” episode. It’s a formation episode.
We talk honestly about leadership failures, naïve expectations, poor ecclesiology, weak accountability, and where we ourselves were immature, unclear, or proud. We ask hard questions most podcasts avoid and we refuse to build theology out of trauma.
And yet, this episode is full of hope.
Because God does not waste church wounds.He forges shepherds from them.
If you’ve been hurt, disillusioned, or tempted to walk away not just from a church, but from the Church this conversation is for you.
“The Church is Christ’s bride, and He knows her flaws better than we ever will.”
🎧 Listen in. Reflect with us. And see how even the deepest wounds can become instruments of wisdom.
