In this episode of the Lead to Soar Podcast, Michelle Redfern is joined by Amal Yusuf for a grounded conversation about what inclusive leadership looks like in practice.
Amal shares her journey from immigrant to senior leader at Delta Air Lines, and reflects on how identity, power, and organisational norms shape who is heard, who is trusted, and who has to work harder to belong. This is not a discussion about intention or value statements. It is about leadership judgment inside real systems.
Together, Michelle and Amal explore:
How lived experience informs leadership credibility and decision-making
What does leading across difference require beyond performative inclusion
Why strategic networking and relationship-building are survival skills for women navigating exclusion
How leaders can create safety and accountability without shifting the burden onto marginalised people
This episode is for leaders who want to understand inclusion as a core leadership capability, and for women navigating workplaces where difference is present but not always respected.
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