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In today’s episode, I sat down with three conservative people I’ve never met before named Bill, Mary, and Stephen, to talk about all things Trump. And I wanted to host such a show to highlight that we (Left and Right) are not as divided and hateful to one another when we sit down and talk like adults. And… this episode proved just that.

Bill was the resident MAGA representative during our debate. I encountered Bill due to his daily arguments with my friend Terry on Facebook. To say it nicely, Bill likes to stir up shit as a proud member of MAGA, and is a very vocal fan of President Trump.

I’ve watched Bill interact online for the better half of a year, and decided to debate him on a subject about a week or so ago… which he refused to do, while offering up whataboutisms as a repeated response to my many questions. So… knowing that I wasn’t getting anywhere with our online interaction, I asked Bill to join me on the show so we could debate in person… and he graciously accepted. He then asked “Do you mind if I bring my friends Mary and Steve?”

Well… how could I say no?

Both Mary and Steve agreed to do this interview as long as I did not publish our Zoom interview on my YouTube channel…so this interview is in audio only.

We began our chat by discussing the tragedy of the Charlie Kirk assassination…which quickly moved to our discussions on Erika Kirk’s heartfelt speech about her husband at his recent memorial/rally in Arizona.

We discussed the recent drama about the “indefinite suspension” of Jimmy Kimmel and Brandon Carr’s overreach and public comments as the head of the FCC.

When then free-formed a bit around topics like our federal government becoming the largest shareholder in Intel, and why that may be a conflict worth analyzing - which quickly jumped to the Trump tariffs and how these specific actions are affecting our farmers here in America.

We closed our debate by discussing the many constitutional violations of ICE, and why the J6’ers deserved a blanket clemency by President Trump (yes, many folks believe this level of nonsense).

The good news…we held a very spirited and sometimes contentious debate…without any name calling, or ad hominems of any kind. And as you will soon hear, it wasn’t because we agreed on everything (we did not).

I hope you learn as much as I did from our debate. And please leave your comments…I will respond in kind.



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