In this episode, Dave speaks with his friend Matt Williams of Grace Church in South Carolina. Matt explains how his role has changed at Grace and how he planned to only stay 18 months, not 25 years (~2:30).
Dave asks about Matt’s upbringing in Myrtle Beach, SC and Matt talks about the theme of entrepreneurism in his life. Dave asks Matt about what makes Grace Church unique and Matt speaks about creating a culture of leadership and how Dave is partially to blame (~12:45). Matt shares about the growth of Grace over the years, the pain that comes with growth and the deep soul searching that has accompanied both (~27:00).
Dave asks Matt to share his advice for other pastors and what he is hopeful for going forward (~30:00).
To learn more about Matt and Grace Church you can find their website here.
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