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John Kremer:
“One of your major themes in your diaries, which is that whole thing about allowing for the totality of what arises, which I think in some way goes beyond just the simple thought that's going on in your mind, or whatever obsessive thought you have, and you're following along with it, and at some point you might get distracted or something like that, and then you follow that thought. But somewhere along the line, all of that is meaningless compared to even the totality of what arises. And somehow the word that you use allowing for that totality of what arises, sort of takes you out of the thought.”
Dr Louis Koster:
“Yes, absolutely. That is so true. It's kind of like you start to locate yourself somewhere else. You are losing your point of view in that process of allowing for the totality of what is there. And once you have lost your point of view, because you start to locate yourself in what is at least exponentially the totality of your experience, that is the moment that a window opens into being.”
“A point of view is really what has us be hooked in the experience of the mind. And there's something that happens in your experience when you allow for the totality of whatever is there, that you move away from having a point of view, which is what limits your experience of life and also, which is what defines what you are.”
John Kremer:
“I guess I'm lost again because how do you define what you are when all that you are, is being?”
Dr Louis Koster:
“Right. So one of the hallmarks of being, so to speak, to the degree that I can talk about it, is that it's not defined. So the moment that you define yourself, you have limited yourself. And when you really become aware of your true being, there is no definition. So what you are can't be described. So like I said, it is not an experience. The mind can only tell you what you're not. What you are, you can only be.”
John Kremer:
“That's the beginning of a nice song again. I can't remember what you said now, but it was unlikely as true as words can be.”
“So, I'll have to go back and listen.”
“I've really enjoyed our talk today. I think there's a lot that you covered that even intrigues my mind and almost overwhelms it, which is probably good.”
Dr Louis Koster:
“Yeah. So thank you, John. So really, I will acknowledge you for your... Well, first for our relationship, for you choosing to have this conversation with me and your inquisitiveness in this conversation, that gives me the opportunity to... well, that gives us both the opportunity to explore what it is to live an authentic life. I think that is really what is the intent of this conversation. Not just to have a conversation, for it to be interesting. It takes a lot of courage to explore truly what it is to be human and what is real and what is authentic in life. So thank you, really.”
“Any other thing that is so wonderful, is that you make me laugh. So that is fantastic because ultimately, although the topic is serious, although it seems to be serious, the lightness is what makes it all possible. So yeah. Fantastic. Thank you so much, John.”
“Beautiful.”
John Kremer:
“Yeah. That was a lot that you said. It's really kind of neat how it comes out of you. And as you said, you're often blank. You don't know what you're going to say until you say it. And then you hear it and you go, wow, that was good.”
Dr Louis Koster:
“Yeah. That's right. So John, can I ask you, what was your experience of this?”
John Kremer:
“In some sense, very absorbing. I found it very intriguing, and sometimes it actually, in some way, took me out of myself. I don't know if I could say it took me to being, but it took me somewhere.”
Dr Louis Koster:
“I can totally get what you say. So I mean, that's just amazing because what I noticed now is that there is a transformation with you as much as with me from you reading something and then ask me questions, to really ask me questions, having read it all or what you have read, and then ask me question from your own true curiosity in life. And that is so beautiful. I mean, that's such a gift that you do that.”
John Kremer:
“Well, hopefully between the two of us, we can bring out more and more of that.”
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Dr Louis Koster, distinguished humanitarian, management consultant, and published author served for over ten years as a medical doctor for “Doctors Without Borders” and other humanitarian organizations in trouble spots across the globe. For his humanitarian efforts, Dr. Koster has received numerous awards and has appeared on radio, television, and news shows.
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