Jonathan reflects on the difference between optimism and hope in the Biblical imagination by looking at Abraham and Paul's life experiences. He also tells some of his story about the perils of 'hoping' for an outcome that is never strong enough to carry the weight of our deepest hope. The episode ends with a benediction from Romans 15:13. Pray it over yourself and others this Advent season as often as you can. "May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace as you trust in him, so that you may overflow with hope by the power of the Holy Spirit."