In this episode, I talk with Alicia McKay. Alicia is an expert in strategy, change, and public leadership. Having spent most of her career in the government sector, Alisha shared some insightful reflections on the process of 'change' and why innovation shouldn't be put into its own little box and isolated team but needs to be viewed as part of BAU that everyone takes personal responsibility for. A really insightful chat with a good few laughs mixed in as well.