Is leadership about rising through the ranks or rising to who you truly are?
In this episode of the Inner Work series, The Breakdown, MaryAnn Means-Dufrene and Karen Finney revisit MaryAnn’s powerful conversation with Dr. Ashley Elgin Barnes, CEO of Lena Pope. Together, they reflect on Ashley’s unique leadership journey, from counselor to executive, and what it means to lead with service, depth, and humility.
Through honest insight and emotional resonance, this episode redefines leadership readiness, challenges traditional success metrics, and explores how mentorship, vulnerability, and inner work shape who we become at the top.
00:18 Introduction and Welcome
00:38 Ashley Elgin Barnes' Unique Leadership Path
02:28 Redefining Leadership Traits
08:44 Mentorship and Readiness
16:59 Emotional Resilience and Recovery
20:38 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
Dr. Ashley Elgin is the CEO of Lena Pope and a nationally recognized expert in childhood trauma and organizational leadership. With over 35 years of service, she blends clinical wisdom with business strategy to build resilient communities and cultures.
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