Host and podcast impresario Jesse Thorn is back to talk about his many shows (Bullseye, Judge John Hodgeman, Jordan, Jesse, GO!), the process of converting his Max Fun Network to a worker-owned cooperative, losing his father during the pandemic, feeling pulled in a number of different directions, neckties, owning a shop some day, parenthood, gender non-conformity, dogs and dog loss, Aisha Tyler, Julie Klausner, ice cream, the heat and more!
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