Art Bell speaks with Dr. Ellen Crystall, a researcher who claims over 2,000 photographs of UFOs taken across nearly three decades of fieldwork in Hollywood, California and Pine Bush, New York. Crystall describes her first encounters in 1971, when residents of a Hollywood apartment complex pointed out lights in the night sky that gradually revealed themselves as structured craft over subsequent weeks. She explains how her photographs capture shortwave radiation emissions invisible to the naked eye, producing unexpected images that took years of scientific consultation to decipher.
Crystall recounts her closest encounter in Pine Bush in 1986, when a small boomerang-shaped craft with a geodesic dome hovered directly above her, close enough to touch. She describes shouting at the craft in frustration over the lack of communication, prompting it to fan one of its swiveling paddle-like wings over her. She also details seeing aliens approximately three and a half feet tall with thin frames and beige skin.
Art presses Crystall on the interpretive nature of her photographs and the challenge of presenting evidence that requires guided examination rather than offering immediately recognizable images. The discussion touches on the Senate's rejection of the nuclear test ban treaty and listener calls ranging from alien technology to the JFK Jr. crash.
