Helen Graves talks about illegal rooftop barbecues, the joy of cooking and eating together outdoors, and why tenderstem broccoli is the thing everyone needs to grill.



Helen's new book Live Fire is published by Hardie Grant.



Helen Graves is a food and recipe writer and editor and she used to write a much loved blog called Food Stories.



The Guardian podcast I mentioned in this episode is called Let's Eat!





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