Comedian Athena Kubblenu ( Mock the week, BBC Radio4, Comedy Central) joins Hatty and Gemma chats  , all women work hard kid or no kids ,  the negative  social narrative for kids,  from having a dinner lady mum to BBC writer  Athena flags up we need to  rid  the guilt and past attitude  of  'thats not for me ' with humous and museum's are for all !