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Republican men used to be stoic and quiet technocrats, but now they're screechy and freaky. Meanwhile, Kamala Harris has a whole crop of strong, silent types to choose from as a running mate. 



Plus, a shout-out to Charlie Sykes, movies Tim hasn't seen, and can we quit the identity-oriented Zooms for Kamala? Tom Nichols joins Tim Miller.



show notes:



Tom's piece on the manliness flip-flop

Tom's piece on Biden stepping aside

Charlie on how Never Trumpers really mean never

Trump's 400 kids remark