Andrew Heaton! Author! Podcaster! Comedian! Delight! Friend!

His new book is Tribalism is Dumb.

 

His podcast is The Political Orphanage.

His conversation with me on THIS podcast is a lot of fun! Please enjoy!

PS This is only the first HALF of our chat.
For part two, subscribe via Apple Podcasts OR simply head on over here to Patreon!