We explore whether the disappearance of traditional interfaces means we are moving from building screens to orchestrating intent, a shift Serg Zorin argues requires us to design for outcomes rather than visible controls. While Nick Babich questions if Figma’s slow AI integration is becoming a liability, we also untangle the tension between the demand for constant upskilling and the human limit of energy that stifles creativity. This episode connects these dots to help us understand how our tools and problems are changing right under our feet.