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"But he took that a step further and he really helped a lot of other athletes and helping them in their post career days and always saying that no matter how much money it is, it can be gone, it can be lost and it can evaporate rather quickly. And there's no shortage of stories that say he's absolutely right. So he really got athletes to think about, hey, what's your post career going to be like? What are you going to do to make money?"