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"And then, and then, you know, and way, you know, me having my own two kids at the time, it helped me find it like trying to find out friends for my, my two kids, you know, for them to play with, you know. And so it's like killing two dog on, you know, killing two doggone problems with one big stone. Okay? And I was glad that I actually did that. But let me tell you like this."