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"And I was wondering what it was about him that you really, I guess, connected with that you would have an emphasis in your Ph.D. again, I was just curious if it was his writing style, the communities he wrote about or the nature. And another thing is, what do you think, Woodsworth, how do you think he would arrive about nature today? So it's a pleasure talking to you. Thank you very much for this opportunity. Thank you."