"We recognise and respect the many challenges facing our oceans, yet too often 'doom and gloom' stories are the only kind of ocean news we hear.
"The evidence suggests that if we do not balance the bad news with good, and the problems with solutions, we will not motivate people to act."
That's a quote from the website of Ocean Optimism, a movement to inspire action to save the oceans not by highlighting what's going wrong, but by sharing stories of what's going right. Our guest this time is Ocean Optimism's founder, Elin Kelsey.
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