Steph Dickinson is a brilliant human being and the Managing Director of Pie Factory, a charity based in Ramsgate, Kent.

We talk about:

• Managing home life, running a charity over the pandemic, and the need to pace and navigate as humanly and honestly as possible.
• Challenging and changing culture in the not-for-profit sector.
• Honest and authentic practice and leadership, and a world that means people love themselves, each other and the plane.
• Growing up in a working class background and existing in tension, providing a perspective and curiosity to the world.
• Steph's journey from participant to Managing Director of Pie Factory, and how she stepped into the role as herself.
• What Do Good and Do Well means and how a burnout early on her career helped her to recognise her worth.
• Questioning 'what is good' and how do we cause the least amount of harm.
• Wellbeing and the connection with productivity - and why that's a problem.

Links and things:

• Contact Steph Instagram & Twitter
• Contact Pie Factory Music Instagram, Twitter & website www.piefactorymusic.com

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