Brad Leford has been building software for 20 years and now spends most of his time helping small businesses figure out AI. His new side project, Plum, is a video calling app built for teams and AI agents.
Any agent from any harness can join a Plum meeting through a link, using WebMCP to learn what it can do: listen, raise its hand, talk, and share assets. In the demo, Mastra agents keep the meeting on track while a Grok Bot session builds slides on request. Recordings and transcripts stay on your own disk instead of a vendor's cloud.
Brad, Shane, and Abhi also talk about whether software is actually easy now, why the Mastra team decided it had AI psychosis, and what happens when agents and humans share context in the same room. And Brad shares the moment that pushed him to ship: Grok Bot taught Claude how to share an image, live in the meeting.
Recorded live on AI Agents Hour, a weekly livestream by Mastra CPO Shane Thomas and CTO Abhi Aiyer. Mondays 12PM Pacific.
👤 ABOUT BRAD
Brad is a software engineer and consultant who has spent the better part of 20 years building apps and websites, including stints at Gatsby and Amazon. He now helps small and medium businesses, many in agriculture and small manufacturing, adopt AI and build the tools they need.
Plum: https://useplum.app
đź“š MASTRA RESOURCES
Mastra: https://mastra.ai
Mastra on X: https://x.com/mastra_ai
Mastra Discord: https://mastra.ai/community/discord
Mastra GitHub: https://github.com/mastra-ai
Learn Mastra: https://mastra.ai/learn
Principles of Building AI Agents (Book): https://mastra.ai/books/principles-of-building-ai-agents
Patterns for Building AI Agents (New Book): https://mastra.ai/books/patterns-of-building-ai-agents
WHAT IS MASTRA?
Mastra is an open-source TypeScript framework designed for building and shipping AI-powered applications and agents with minimal friction. It supports the full lifecycle of agent development—from prototype to production. You can integrate it with frontend and backend stacks (e.g., React, Next.js, Node) or run agents as standalone services. If you're a JavaScript or TypeScript developer looking to build an agentic or AI-powered product without starting from first principles, Mastra provides the scaffolding, tools, and integrations to accelerate that process.
⏱️ CHAPTERS
00:00 Cold open
00:17 Meet Brad
02:09 Is software actually easy now?
04:22 Spreadsheets to space shuttles
05:06 Are small businesses AI-pilled?
06:51 Why Brad built Plum
08:01 Demo: agents in a meeting
09:12 Any agent can join with WebMCP
11:12 Agents as meeting participants
12:07 Your meeting history, stored locally
12:48 Working with agents in real time
14:42 Shared context that doesn't reset
15:41 Can agents speak in the meeting?
16:32 When Grok Bot taught Claude
17:37 Fun and serious use cases
19:07 Bring your own agent
19:22 How to try Plum
