Trace Bell joins me for a second time with his partner Tina Olson. We ended up talking a lot about relationships including: steelmanning and boundaries. We talked about the trends we're seeing in the collective and in our own lives. Some of those trends include not getting stuck in the ditches of seeing life as purely positive or negative. Another trend is recognizing the messiness of life and people (including ourselves).
You can find Trace on his website here.
